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#1 polymorphic

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Posted 28 January 2009 - 12:11 PM

good day,

was wondering what your thoughts are on encrypted hard drives?  Was looking around the net and came across some interesting thoughts about criminals who have their computers confiscated as part of an investigation.  The majority are encrypted.  Now, even with the best computer running 24 hours a day (using John the Ripper or an equivalent), police are cracking very few passwords.  Even with multiple sources that have been indexed to use for the cracking.  Even just on a regular operating system password.  Even fewer on pre-boot encryption.  Would it not make sense for it to be law that a criminal has to give up passwords.

If they refuse a breathalyzer, they get charged.  There are only a few states in the US where this is now law and none in Canada.  Since there are so many easily downloadable programs available for encrypting, it makes it almost impossible for a good password to be cracked.

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Posted 28 January 2009 - 12:38 PM

QUOTE (polymorphic @ Jan 28 2009, 01:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
good day,

was wondering what your thoughts are on encrypted hard drives?  Was looking around the net and came across some interesting thoughts about criminals who have their computers confiscated as part of an investigation.  The majority are encrypted.  Now, even with the best computer running 24 hours a day (using John the Ripper or an equivalent), police are cracking very few passwords.  Even with multiple sources that have been indexed to use for the cracking.  Even just on a regular operating system password.  Even fewer on pre-boot encryption.  Would it not make sense for it to be law that a criminal has to give up passwords.

If they refuse a breathalyzer, they get charged.  There are only a few states in the US where this is now law and none in Canada.  Since there are so many easily downloadable programs available for encrypting, it makes it almost impossible for a good password to be cracked.

cheers


This is a very interesting question. On the one hand we are talking about privacy, even suspected criminals still have certain rights. Currently all I know about are the laws of exporting encryption or programs that have encryption in them. HUGE no no, especially if it deals with weapons. On the other hand, HDD encryption is quite a bit moot if you **** off the right people (Take a look at NSA Tempest project for a fine example). There are always methods of getting the data. For that reason I do not believe that any old flatfoot department should just bust in and demand passwords. There should be steps involved, consulting amongst a more knowledgeable agency for instance. Plus there is always people keeping stuff on their cell phones, google docs, email, etc.. those passwords can be revealed with a court order anyways. Of course I believe my friend said it best "Want to hide something, do so in plain sight. Encryption only proves you have got something to hide."
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#3 kibipvoplix

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#4 leasasteave

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 02:51 AM

Password cracking is used to crack  the any password for using the personal site.You can activate any others account and crack the password of that and change the password.

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 02:39 AM

Password cracking is not good for the security you have to crack the password and take any information.Password is using for securing the data and your system it is related the data.
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Posted 15 June 2012 - 09:08 PM

I am sure that if the crimes are large enough to warrant the level of privacy invasion, then the agency responsible for cracking the data will have the resources. It's possible that most police departments are not the ones dealing with those types of crimes.





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