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#1 Shadowman

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Posted 12 October 2007 - 02:29 AM

Well, I went in and was greeted with a 45 question exam that I was required to complete within 2 hours, and I came home certified smile.gif

The questions were pretty much well distributed over all objectives.
I was hoping for a few questions on regular expression, but there were none. I also didn't get any questions on drawing such as graphics, bitmaps, image, etc.
There were a lot of questions on serialization, threading, processes, and services. There were a few questions on configuration as well. Something that was hit real hard seemed to be globalization; I think I had a question on every aspect of the subject. I also had question on mailing and security such as hash algorithms. Streams were mixed in with other objectives, so make sure you are comfortable with them. There were also questions on COM interop and platform invoke. There were a few simple questions on debugging.

The questions were primarily small scenarios consisting of one or two small paragraphs with about three sentences. Just about every question required choosing the correct code from different code snippets. I had one question that required me to pick three correct procedures from a selection of six or seven of them and put them in the correct order.

I found the Microsoft Training Kit helpful for the exam. However, you cannot rely on it for study alone. If you are going to take this exam, then you will know that there are different possible ways to code the same thing. So, although the training kit has a lot of sample code, a lot of the questions you get on the exam may be coded slightly different. The .NET Framework is big, and you need to know a lot of little tid bits about every subject. For many of the test questions, it is helpful if you are familiar with the properties and methods that are in each class in the objectives. I know that is a lot to remember, but I came across a few questions where I couldn't remember if a certain property belonged to a certain class. Sometimes, it is just too much to remember every single property and method in every single class in the framework, but it makes the exam easier.

Like in my previous posts, I recommend studying the MSDN libraries. However, while going through them, I found that many classes do not have code examples at all. Even if you dig deeper into the properties and methods, there is still nothing. I guess that is why a lot of them are given a 1 star rating. I found a lot of classes just have one sentence for an explanation. So, sometimes, even the MSDN libraries are just a poor reference also.

As far as more learning materials for the .NET Framework, I think there should be more out there, but a lot of times we are just left to search through white papers or find somewhere that has some samples to give you more information. In my other posts, I also listed a few more books that would be good to use for studying. I think those books are still a good help. Another good book would be CLR via C#. I was planning on getting this book, but I don't have it yet.

Well, in studying for the exam, I took information from the books and MSDN library that I studied from and compiled it all together for each objective. I will add it here for anyone that would like to use it. Keep in mind, that this is not an all in one study guide. It is merely just a review of all the objectives given from the training kit and MSDN libraries. Maybe it will help someone a little bit. Also, when reviewing my printed notes, I noticed a missing parenthesis in one of my code snippets, a class name misspelled by one letter here and there, and sometimes Microsoft Word didn't know which direction to put the double quotes. I briefly went back through later, but I can't remember where they are. However, I'm sure if you are studying for this exam, you will be able to figure out any small mistakes, and it shouldn't be a big deal.

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Good luck for anyone else working on this exam. Now, it's time for me to move on to 70-526 smile.gif
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Posted 12 October 2007 - 05:26 AM

Shadowman congratulations on passing your exam.

I think you must be the first person here at ProProfs that has passed this exam.

Great review on your exam well worth the read.

Interesting thing that you struggle to find good study materials for this exam.  It must be because this not very popular?

Well done again and good luck with your 70-526.
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Posted 12 October 2007 - 03:56 PM

QUOTE(Quinntessential @ Oct 12 2007, 10:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Interesting thing that you struggle to find good study materials for this exam.  It must be because this not very popular?

That is probably true due to the lack of computer scientists out there and that this exam is still relatively new as well as the difficulty of learning all the material. Looking at the Number of Microsoft Certified Professionals Worldwide, it currently shows 2,227 certified as MCPD Enterprise, 1,640 certified as MCPD Web Developer, and 663 certified as MCPD Windows Developer.  These all deal with the .NET Framework 2.0. However, there are 73,905 certified as MCAD, 30,975 certified as MCSD .NET, and 46,157 certified as MCSD Visual Studio 6.0.  That is a large difference in numbers. I suspect that since people have the older certificates and have been working comfortably with a company for a while, they don't need to worry about upgrading their exam, especially if they are still using the older .NET Framework.

During my studies, I was actually planning to purchase the CBT Nuggets video, but they only had one using Visual Basic, and I was learning C#. The Microsoft training videos were just too expensive. I would have to pay approximately $480 for two videos to cover all the objectives. It just didn't seem worth it.

Now, the .NET Framework 3.0 is available. Also, Visual Studio 2008 and the .NET Framework 3.5 are both in Beta 2. So maybe developers are just planning on making the leap from .NET 1.1 to .NET 3.0 or 3.5? I don't know, but it leaves me wondering.

In any case, that means there are probably companies out there looking for people who are certified and can't always find them. That would mean good job opportunities for me if I can finish the certification.
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Posted 12 October 2007 - 04:07 PM

QUOTE(cbrzana @ Oct 12 2007, 10:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
it sounds like you went into the testing center with confidence.

Actually, I didn't know what to expect going into this exam. There is so much material covered, that I had no idea what was going to be thrown at me. So, I just went into the exam room telling myself that if I pass, then good, and if I don't pass, then maybe I need to purchase the Microsoft training videos to study more; I studied through five books, the MSDN libraries, and the only practice questions I had were from the Microsoft Training Kit, which left me with not much else to study. I really didn't know if I was going to pass until I hit the final exam submit button and saw the word "Pass" on the screen.

Thank you both for your replies. Hopefully, we do get more people here interested in this certification path. It's kind of lonely walking down this path alone and not seeing what types of obstacles other people are hitting.

Edited by Shadowman, 12 October 2007 - 04:27 PM.

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Posted 23 October 2007 - 09:04 PM

QUOTE(Shadowman @ Oct 13 2007, 05:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That is probably true due to the lack of computer scientists out there and that this exam is still relatively new as well as the difficulty of learning all the material. Looking at the Number of Microsoft Certified Professionals Worldwide, it currently shows 2,227 certified as MCPD Enterprise, 1,640 certified as MCPD Web Developer, and 663 certified as MCPD Windows Developer.  These all deal with the .NET Framework 2.0. However, there are 73,905 certified as MCAD, 30,975 certified as MCSD .NET, and 46,157 certified as MCSD Visual Studio 6.0.  That is a large difference in numbers. I suspect that since people have the older certificates and have been working comfortably with a company for a while, they don't need to worry about upgrading their exam, especially if they are still using the older .NET Framework.

During my studies, I was actually planning to purchase the CBT Nuggets video, but they only had one using Visual Basic, and I was learning C#. The Microsoft training videos were just too expensive. I would have to pay approximately $480 for two videos to cover all the objectives. It just didn't seem worth it.

Now, the .NET Framework 3.0 is available. Also, Visual Studio 2008 and the .NET Framework 3.5 are both in Beta 2. So maybe developers are just planning on making the leap from .NET 1.1 to .NET 3.0 or 3.5? I don't know, but it leaves me wondering.

In any case, that means there are probably companies out there looking for people who are certified and can't always find them. That would mean good job opportunities for me if I can finish the certification.


Hi!

Congratulations for Clearing 70-536
I want to ask you about material that you utilized for preparing for 70-536
I am going through Training Kit, and just following that book only, and to complete practices which are given in to that book, for that i am using MSDN help, so is that sufficient? and for reference i am using programming C# by jesse liberty - O'reilly book.

But by looking at your mail, i think this would not be  sufficient right? So, if you can provide me your material then it would be helpful to me a lot.
I have to appear in exam on or before 15th of Dec -07.
So, please suggest me how to prepare well for this, so that i can clear this exam.
Its necessary for me to clear this exam. So, please help me for the same

Thanks in advance
-Sonal


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Posted 24 October 2007 - 07:10 AM

Well, if you study only the training kit and the MSDN library, I think it is possible to pass. You just need to make sure you understand all of the objectives. If you can remember most of the properties and methods for each class and know how the code is supposed to be written, then you should be okay. This means that you will probably have to dig into the MSDN library fairly deeply. Sometimes while going through the training kit and the MSDN library, I could not find any code examples for some of the classes. Even if I dug through the properties and methods for the class in the MSDN library, many classes still had no code. Sometimes you will find only one small sentence of an explanation of what the class is and nothing else. Sometimes the training kit gives no code, a few classes are left out completely, and I came across one or two where the author says at the introduction of the chapter that a certain class is part of the objectives but gives no other explanation or code about it in the book. To ensure that you can pass the exam, you need to make sure you know the correct way to write the code for most of the classes. So, you need to practice writing the code, which will allow you to become accustomed to which properties and methods belong to a class as well as the correct way that the code is supposed to be written. You also need to be aware of incorrect ways to write the code.

So, if you go through the training kit, the MSDN library, and the O'reilly book you purchased, and you understand the purpose of every class, and the correct way to write the code for each class, taking into consideration each property, method, etc. that belongs to each class, then you should be fine. However, if you find yourself not sure about certain things or don't understand certain things, then you may need to look somewhere else.

For the most part, the training kit was good for me. However, when I was studying, there were some times where I was not comfortable with the way certain things were presented to me. Sometimes I felt like I needed more. So, I would often reference other material. You may be different and have no problem understanding everything with what you have. Only you can make that determination while you are studying.

Well, I'll give you a list of the other books that I studied. I read through each of these other books. With the code examples in these other books, I would often Step Into the code line by line by using the F11 function key. Doing this allowed me to follow the flow of the code and see what variables were assigned what and when they were assigned. This was especially helpful following code that manipulated delegates because delegates can often be confusing to follow, especially when dealing with Anonymous Functions (explained very well in the Accelerated book). It also let me get accustomed to the proper way to write the code.

Here are the books:
  • Microsoft Press: Microsoft Visual C# 2005: Step By Step, ISBN: 0-7356-2129-2 - This covered the basics very well and prevented confusion for me later.
  • Microsoft Press: Programming Visual C# 2005: The Language, ISBN: 0-7356-2181-0 - Good book for a reference and has a huge part on debugging.
  • Microsoft Press: Programming Visual C# 2005: The Base Class Library, ISBN: 0-7356-2308-2 - Excellent book. It has separate chapters dedicated to Interfaces, Generics, Collections, Regular Expressions (awesome explanations here), Streams, Assemblies, Reflection, Threads, Serialization, and PInvoke and COM Interop. This one gave me another way to look at the material and code.
  • Accelerated C# 2005 by Trey Nash; ISBN: 978-1590597170 - steps into some real world do's and don't's for writing your code.

You probably don't need all of these books. If I were to recommend one out of all of them, I would say to get The Base Class Library book. That one is more geared to most of the material you need to know. All of the books are great, and I am happy I purchased all of them. I know I will keep using them for references in the future.

I hope this helps you. Good luck on your studies!  biggrin.gif
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Posted 17 January 2008 - 01:58 AM

I am unable to dowload your notes. can you please send it to me at [email protected] Thanks in advance.

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QUOTE(Shadowman @ Oct 12 2007, 03:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, I went in and was greeted with a 45 question exam that I was required to complete within 2 hours, and I came home certified :)

The questions were pretty much well distributed over all objectives.
I was hoping for a few questions on regular expression, but there were none. I also didn't get any questions on drawing such as graphics, bitmaps, image, etc.
There were a lot of questions on serialization, threading, processes, and services. There were a few questions on configuration as well. Something that was hit real hard seemed to be globalization; I think I had a question on every aspect of the subject. I also had question on mailing and security such as hash algorithms. Streams were mixed in with other objectives, so make sure you are comfortable with them. There were also questions on COM interop and platform invoke. There were a few simple questions on debugging.

The questions were primarily small scenarios consisting of one or two small paragraphs with about three sentences. Just about every question required choosing the correct code from different code snippets. I had one question that required me to pick three correct procedures from a selection of six or seven of them and put them in the correct order.

I found the Microsoft Training Kit helpful for the exam. However, you cannot rely on it for study alone. If you are going to take this exam, then you will know that there are different possible ways to code the same thing. So, although the training kit has a lot of sample code, a lot of the questions you get on the exam may be coded slightly different. The .NET Framework is big, and you need to know a lot of little tid bits about every subject. For many of the test questions, it is helpful if you are familiar with the properties and methods that are in each class in the objectives. I know that is a lot to remember, but I came across a few questions where I couldn't remember if a certain property belonged to a certain class. Sometimes, it is just too much to remember every single property and method in every single class in the framework, but it makes the exam easier.

Like in my previous posts, I recommend studying the MSDN libraries. However, while going through them, I found that many classes do not have code examples at all. Even if you dig deeper into the properties and methods, there is still nothing. I guess that is why a lot of them are given a 1 star rating. I found a lot of classes just have one sentence for an explanation. So, sometimes, even the MSDN libraries are just a poor reference also.

As far as more learning materials for the .NET Framework, I think there should be more out there, but a lot of times we are just left to search through white papers or find somewhere that has some samples to give you more information. In my other posts, I also listed a few more books that would be good to use for studying. I think those books are still a good help. Another good book would be CLR via C#. I was planning on getting this book, but I don't have it yet.

Well, in studying for the exam, I took information from the books and MSDN library that I studied from and compiled it all together for each objective. I will add it here for anyone that would like to use it. Keep in mind, that this is not an all in one study guide. It is merely just a review of all the objectives given from the training kit and MSDN libraries. Maybe it will help someone a little bit. Also, when reviewing my printed notes, I noticed a missing parenthesis in one of my code snippets, a class name misspelled by one letter here and there, and sometimes Microsoft Word didn't know which direction to put the double quotes. I briefly went back through later, but I can't remember where they are. However, I'm sure if you are studying for this exam, you will be able to figure out any small mistakes, and it shouldn't be a big deal.

Attached File  70_536_Notes.doc   531.5K   1251 downloads

Good luck for anyone else working on this exam. Now, it's time for me to move on to 70-526 :)



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Posted 17 January 2008 - 10:59 PM

I sent the notes to the email address you supplied. PM me if you have any problems.
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Posted 05 February 2008 - 04:10 PM

QUOTE(Shadowman @ Oct 12 2007, 02:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, I went in and was greeted with a 45 question exam that I was required to complete within 2 hours, and I came home certified smile.gif

The questions were pretty much well distributed over all objectives.
I was hoping for a few questions on regular expression, but there were none. I also didn't get any questions on drawing such as graphics, bitmaps, image, etc.
There were a lot of questions on serialization, threading, processes, and services. There were a few questions on configuration as well. Something that was hit real hard seemed to be globalization; I think I had a question on every aspect of the subject. I also had question on mailing and security such as hash algorithms. Streams were mixed in with other objectives, so make sure you are comfortable with them. There were also questions on COM interop and platform invoke. There were a few simple questions on debugging.

The questions were primarily small scenarios consisting of one or two small paragraphs with about three sentences. Just about every question required choosing the correct code from different code snippets. I had one question that required me to pick three correct procedures from a selection of six or seven of them and put them in the correct order.

I found the Microsoft Training Kit helpful for the exam. However, you cannot rely on it for study alone. If you are going to take this exam, then you will know that there are different possible ways to code the same thing. So, although the training kit has a lot of sample code, a lot of the questions you get on the exam may be coded slightly different. The .NET Framework is big, and you need to know a lot of little tid bits about every subject. For many of the test questions, it is helpful if you are familiar with the properties and methods that are in each class in the objectives. I know that is a lot to remember, but I came across a few questions where I couldn't remember if a certain property belonged to a certain class. Sometimes, it is just too much to remember every single property and method in every single class in the framework, but it makes the exam easier.

Like in my previous posts, I recommend studying the MSDN libraries. However, while going through them, I found that many classes do not have code examples at all. Even if you dig deeper into the properties and methods, there is still nothing. I guess that is why a lot of them are given a 1 star rating. I found a lot of classes just have one sentence for an explanation. So, sometimes, even the MSDN libraries are just a poor reference also.

As far as more learning materials for the .NET Framework, I think there should be more out there, but a lot of times we are just left to search through white papers or find somewhere that has some samples to give you more information. In my other posts, I also listed a few more books that would be good to use for studying. I think those books are still a good help. Another good book would be CLR via C#. I was planning on getting this book, but I don't have it yet.

Well, in studying for the exam, I took information from the books and MSDN library that I studied from and compiled it all together for each objective. I will add it here for anyone that would like to use it. Keep in mind, that this is not an all in one study guide. It is merely just a review of all the objectives given from the training kit and MSDN libraries. Maybe it will help someone a little bit. Also, when reviewing my printed notes, I noticed a missing parenthesis in one of my code snippets, a class name misspelled by one letter here and there, and sometimes Microsoft Word didn't know which direction to put the double quotes. I briefly went back through later, but I can't remember where they are. However, I'm sure if you are studying for this exam, you will be able to figure out any small mistakes, and it shouldn't be a big deal.

Attached File  70_536_Notes.doc   531.5K   1251 downloads

Good luck for anyone else working on this exam. Now, it's time for me to move on to 70-526 smile.gif



Hello Sir,

I have been going through this certification discussion. I found this is the first true informational forum.

Congrats for passing ur exam.

I am also preparing for exam 70-536 and I have got around 4 yrs of experince in Visual Basic 6.0 and MS-SQL 2000. I didn't had any clue about how to prepare for this exam. I browsed Microsoft webiste and they recommeded two books

1. Visual C# 2005 The Language ( Donis Marshell)
2.  >NET framwwork 2.0 application Development Foundation

so my question, according to your experince and looking at my background. am I reading the correct books. rite now i am reading first book (Visual C# 2005 The Language ( Donis Marshell))

kindly reply.

Thank you.



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Posted 05 February 2008 - 05:13 PM

Welcome!

The 70-536 .NET Framework 2.0 Application Development Foundation book is the recommended training kit for the exam. This is the book you will want to spend most of your time on studying as well as the MSDN libraries. So you have the correct book.

The Visual C# 2005: The Language is another good book if you want to learn C# for the exam. Another good book that goes good with this one is Visual C# 2005: The Base Class Library by Francesco Balena.

If this is your first time with C# and .NET, then you may want to consider also getting either
  • Microsoft Press: Microsoft Visual C# 2005: Step By Step, ISBN: 0-7356-2129-2
    or
  • Microsoft Press: Microsoft Visual Basic 2005: Step By Step, ISBN: 0-7356-2131-4

When you take the exam, you do have the option to select the language you want to use. You can select C#, Visual Basic, or C++. It is your choice.

If you want to go with Visual Basic .NET, then the recommended book is Visual Basic 2005: The Language by Francesco Balena.

I recommend taking at look my post on Recommended Study Material and you may also want to look at my post on MSDN Ramp-Up because it can save you some money on the exam.

Good luck with your studies biggrin.gif
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Posted 06 February 2008 - 07:51 AM

QUOTE(Shadowman @ Feb 5 2008, 05:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Welcome!

The 70-536 .NET Framework 2.0 Application Development Foundation book is the recommended training kit for the exam. This is the book you will want to spend most of your time on studying as well as the MSDN libraries. So you have the correct book.

The Visual C# 2005: The Language is another good book if you want to learn C# for the exam. Another good book that goes good with this one is Visual C# 2005: The Base Class Library by Francesco Balena.

If this is your first time with C# and .NET, then you may want to consider also getting either
  • Microsoft Press: Microsoft Visual C# 2005: Step By Step, ISBN: 0-7356-2129-2
    or
  • Microsoft Press: Microsoft Visual Basic 2005: Step By Step, ISBN: 0-7356-2131-4
When you take the exam, you do have the option to select the language you want to use. You can select C#, Visual Basic, or C++. It is your choice.

If you want to go with Visual Basic .NET, then the recommended book is Visual Basic 2005: The Language by Francesco Balena.

I recommend taking at look my post on Recommended Study Material and you may also want to look at my post on MSDN Ramp-Up because it can save you some money on the exam.

Good luck with your studies biggrin.gif



Thanks for the quick response.  

One suggestion , do you recommened to study 70-536 .NET Framework 2.0 Application Development Foundation as a main book, and Visual C# 2005: The Language and Microsoft Visual C# 2005: Step By Step as a reference books. Like whenever some concepts needs to clear.

How much time does it normally take to prepare for exam 70-536?

Thanks



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Posted 06 February 2008 - 05:26 PM

Since this appears to be your first time with C# and .NET, I suggest starting with the Step by Step book first. You already know how to program, so you will be able to skim through the first six chapters real fast. Everything after that may be new to you.

After the Step by Step book, then study the Visual C# 2005: The Language book. That will give you more understanding of C#. However, there may be times where the information in the book is difficult to follow. Sometimes the presentation of the information in the book is not always clear. There is also a section on Microsoft Intermediate Languge (MSIL), the programming language of the CLR and the Common Instruction Language for managed code, that you will not need to know for the exam, but if you want to learn MSIL, it can make you a better programmer. You can probably leave that section for later though and just understand some basics of it because it is useful to catch unwanted boxing in your code. Personally, I like the Visual C# 2005: The Base Class Library book better because it is presented in a more clear way, but that is up to you. You can also use both of these books as a reference when studying the training kit.

Once you learn about C#, that is when you will want to study the 70-536 .NET Framework 2.0 Application Development Foundation Training Kit. This book and exam is more about .NET Framework 2.0 than it is about a single language such as C# or Visual Basic, but you need to understand the language using .NET before studying the framework. If you study this book before learning your language of choice with .NET, then you will probably have a difficult time following it.

Also, make sure while you are studying the training kit to also use the MSDN library at the same time to dig deeper into the particular objective you are learning. It may help you learn and understand more. Anyway, the training kit is based on the MSDN library and you will find some of the book is an exact replica of the MSDN library.

Make sure you use the following links to the MSDN library to cover all your objectives because the training kit does not cover 100% of them:
http://www.proprofs.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=11932
http://www.proprofs.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=11933

Most importantly - Have fun biggrin.gif
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Posted 07 February 2008 - 09:14 AM

QUOTE(Shadowman @ Feb 6 2008, 05:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Since this appears to be your first time with C# and .NET, I suggest starting with the Step by Step book first. You already know how to program, so you will be able to skim through the first six chapters real fast. Everything after that may be new to you.

After the Step by Step book, then study the Visual C# 2005: The Language book. That will give you more understanding of C#. However, there may be times where the information in the book is difficult to follow. Sometimes the presentation of the information in the book is not always clear. There is also a section on Microsoft Intermediate Languge (MSIL), the programming language of the CLR and the Common Instruction Language for managed code, that you will not need to know for the exam, but if you want to learn MSIL, it can make you a better programmer. You can probably leave that section for later though and just understand some basics of it because it is useful to catch unwanted boxing in your code. Personally, I like the Visual C# 2005: The Base Class Library book better because it is presented in a more clear way, but that is up to you. You can also use both of these books as a reference when studying the training kit.

Once you learn about C#, that is when you will want to study the 70-536 .NET Framework 2.0 Application Development Foundation Training Kit. This book and exam is more about .NET Framework 2.0 than it is about a single language such as C# or Visual Basic, but you need to understand the language using .NET before studying the framework. If you study this book before learning your language of choice with .NET, then you will probably have a difficult time following it.

Also, make sure while you are studying the training kit to also use the MSDN library at the same time to dig deeper into the particular objective you are learning. It may help you learn and understand more. Anyway, the training kit is based on the MSDN library and you will find some of the book is an exact replica of the MSDN library.

Make sure you use the following links to the MSDN library to cover all your objectives because the training kit does not cover 100% of them:
http://www.proprofs.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=11932
http://www.proprofs.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=11933

Most importantly - Have fun biggrin.gif


Once again thanks for guiding me for the preparation of exam.

Is there any other free resources to learn C# step by step? I have alreay bought other two books. being at home can't effort more.

Thanks


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Posted 07 February 2008 - 04:54 PM

You can try the MSDN library.
For Visual Studio 2005 and .NET 2.0 go here: http://msdn2.microso...y/k...362(VS.80).aspx
For Visual Studio 2008 and .NET 3.5 go here: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/kx37x362.aspx

There is a C# Programming Guide and a lot of other information that will help you. All of it is free.

The 70-536 exam concentrates on Visual Studio 2005 and .NET 2.0. So stay with that one if you are studying for the exam.

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Posted 09 February 2008 - 06:48 PM

QUOTE(Shadowman @ Feb 7 2008, 04:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You can try the MSDN library.
For Visual Studio 2005 and .NET 2.0 go here: http://msdn2.microso...y/k...362(VS.80).aspx
For Visual Studio 2008 and .NET 3.5 go here: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/kx37x362.aspx

There is a C# Programming Guide and a lot of other information that will help you. All of it is free.

The 70-536 exam concentrates on Visual Studio 2005 and .NET 2.0. So stay with that one if you are studying for the exam.


Thanks so much.

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Posted 11 February 2008 - 08:46 AM

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Thanks so much.



Hello,

Just wanted to know about your experience in preparing for exam 70-536. how much time does it take to prepare for this exam according to your experience?

Thanks,

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Posted 11 February 2008 - 04:09 PM

The answer to that depends on how much time you study every day and how much experience you have with .NET Framework.

For people who have used .NET Framework 2.0 on the job for about 2 years or more, they could probably be ready for the exam in lease than one month.

For people like you who have programming experience but have never used .NET, it will probably take about three months.

For people who have no programming experience, they may have to study for one year or longer.

However, everyone is different. Some people learn faster than others and some people study longer hours than others. So, three months is just an estimate. It could be different for you.

I found a good thing to do is figure out how many pages in the Training Kit you can study everyday. Let's say you are comfortable with studying 50 pages from the book every day (It could be less or could be more). As long as it is reasonable (do not set a goal that is too high), then set your goal to study that many pages everyday. If you break it down into smaller pieces like that, then it won't seem as overwhelming, and once you have reached your goal for the day, you will have a sense of accomplishment. This will keep you going.
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Posted 13 February 2008 - 07:27 AM

QUOTE(Shadowman @ Feb 11 2008, 04:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The answer to that depends on how much time you study every day and how much experience you have with .NET Framework.

For people who have used .NET Framework 2.0 on the job for about 2 years or more, they could probably be ready for the exam in lease than one month.

For people like you who have programming experience but have never used .NET, it will probably take about three months.

For people who have no programming experience, they may have to study for one year or longer.

However, everyone is different. Some people learn faster than others and some people study longer hours than others. So, three months is just an estimate. It could be different for you.

I found a good thing to do is figure out how many pages in the Training Kit you can study everyday. Let's say you are comfortable with studying 50 pages from the book every day (It could be less or could be more). As long as it is reasonable (do not set a goal that is too high), then set your goal to study that many pages everyday. If you break it down into smaller pieces like that, then it won't seem as overwhelming, and once you have reached your goal for the day, you will have a sense of accomplishment. This will keep you going.



Once again thanks.


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Posted 20 February 2008 - 11:43 AM

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Once again thanks.


Hi Shadowman,

Just started reading the book for exam 70-536 (.NET Framework 2.0 Apllication Development Foundation). As you suggested I also went to the MSDN (for which you have already provided the link in other topic discussion). I was going through the Value Type topic link

http://msdn2.microso...y/3...bws(vs.80).aspx

the example in this topic was bit difficult for me to understand. so do i need to read something else before looking into it?

I have already read 2 lessons from 1st chapter.

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Posted 20 February 2008 - 12:07 PM

If you are not familiar with value types, then you should study the Microsoft Step By Step book or something similar.

This exam is designed for people with a few years experience. So, you may be in for a lot of extra studying.

I linked the Step By Step book in my post about recommended study material.

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